4Ply: Moving on, and maybe this is where Logan pretending to be you can help out, but switch and nollie tricks combine for just 7.6% of all tricks. So, you’re very regular footed.

J: Haha. Wow. That’s pretty brutal. I’m very regular footed so I’m mostly just skating regular or fakie. I didn’t think it was like that, though. I feel like I can skate switch decently like on flat or something, I’m not the best but I’m not the worst, maybe. But when it comes to filming something, that’s when you really know, like, oh yeah. I thought I can do a switch flip well on flat but now I can film it and it’s like “I can’t do this properly”... like going fast and stuff.

4Ply: Well, the good news is that the most recent part was 14% switch/nollie and String Theory was 12%, so it is slowly trending upwards. There’s more switch getting in there. And because we included the Welcome To Ashbury part in this analysis, which has no switch at all...

J: Oh gosh.

4Ply: Well that might’ve thrown the career average down a bit.

J: Well, it’s good that it’s growing.

4Ply: The Welcome To Ashbury, however, was 100% lines. So it brought that career lines average up.

J: I mean, I’ll try to put something together. I’ll always be checking around the spot to see what else we can do. How can we expand this and make it interesting.

4Ply: Another observation we have is that manuals were also surprisingly low. Also just 7.3%. Can you comment about that?

J: Haha. That’s weird too. I’m kinda surprised on that too. I thought I would manual more than I would skate switch. Cause I do love a good manual. Or, like, trying to connect a manual with, like, another obstacle. But, I guess not as much as I thought.

4Ply: There is a chance that if a ‘combo’ trick has a manual as an element but another part of the trick takes precedence, it will be recorded not as a manual. Tricks are currently logged as only belonging to one type of obstacle. If you were to do a ledge trick into a manual, 4Ply would record it as either a ledge trick or a manual, not both.

J: Um, ok.

Obstacles

4Ply: Let’s talk obstacles. The most common obstacle you skate is ledges which is 22.7% of your tricks. And that’s been pretty consistent throughout your whole career. So, about a quarter of all your tricks are ledge tricks.

J: Interesting. I’m a ledge skater, dude. I’m a technical ledge skater.

4Ply: And that doesn’t include hubbas. We scored hubbas separate from ledges for you. And there were a few of those as well. You got some handrails in there. About 9% handrails overall. Some videos have no handrails, but back in Get Radish it was over 20%. So it might be a youth thing.

J: Yeah. That’s an age thing, maybe, huh? Or as time goes on it’s like the handrail game just got out of control and I’m like, "Yeah, I can’t go that route”. 

4Ply: OK, here’s something interesting for you as well: The amount of tricks that go into banks has been going up. The last part had 14 different tricks into a bank. String Theory before that had 13. Other than that, it’s maybe been 4 or 7, so the into bank things has jumped up. 

J: Oh wow. I love my banks, dude.

4Ply: But on the flip side, there is, like, no transition skating. Are you just not into transition skating? Is it something you didn’t grow up skating?

J: I kinda grew up skating it, like mini ramp and stuff. But I’m just scared of transition. It scares me to the point where I’m like.. I can’t even. It’s kind of past the point. Like surfing. I’m past the point of learning. Like, when I get out there in the waves I think, oh it’s a mellow day with 2 foot waves, I’m gonna try. Bu then I go out there and it feels humongous. That’s what tranny feels like to me now. When it gets over head high it just isn’t happening.

4Ply: Wait. I see here that even more than ledges, gaps are big for you too. 26.9% of your tricks have involved gaps.

J: Interesting. Yeah. I would not think that either. I would not think that I skate a lot of gaps. Like, I don’t find myself ever like “Look. A gap.” I don’t know how that’s possible.

4Ply: Well. A lot of things qualify as gaps. Not just like “huge-gaps” gaps. But flat gaps as well.

J: Still seems high.

4Ply: We also tracked some of the more uncommon spots. There’s a grand total of 26 tricks that involve rooftops. So, like, 7 to 9 roof tricks in each of the more recent video parts, starting with Gordo2K. So, other than the first WKND part, there are a lot of rooftops.



J: Haha. Yeah. I definitely find myself on rooftops a lot. I think that just comes from going to a spot and there is really nothing going on there for me so I kinda of just start looking up. And then one day it worked. Like, “Oh wait. There’s nothing down here but there’s kind of a sick spot up there on the roof.” So ever since then its triggered me to keep looking at them. And then, you know, growing up on Misled Youth and Thrill Of It All where Ellington’s part opens up with him sticking a kickflip off a roof. He doesn’t even land it. And things like that always stuck with me. I’d go to my neighbor’s house and try and drop in on his shed. I think a lot of it comes from those old videos. I think skating roofs is pretty sick but I’m not sure if I really want to be the roof guy.

4Ply: Similarly there’s a handful of tricks on dumpsters and there’s a handful of tricks that involve cars in one way or another. Whether it was hippie jumping through the window of an open door or rolling on the roof of a car or that moving truck bed boardslide you did.



J: Yeah. I got some more ideas with cars coming up but I don’t know if they’ll pan out. We’ll have to find out. Yeah. Dumpsters. Same thing. Growing up and going behind the grocery store and just skating off the dock. And then incorporating this dumpster. I feel like that’s what people used to skate when I watched videos as a kid. They would always skate over the dumpster off the dock. Or even those old shopping cart handrails they’d put down the dock. Remember those? I’d love to find one of those. That would be sick.

4Ply: Yeah. Those shopping cart corrals.

J: Yeah, and they would just make it a handrail down the dock. So sick.

4Ply: How about the trick where you simultaneously do a noseslide on one obstacle and a tailslide on another? We logged them a ‘nailslides’, but what do you call them? And how would you consider it frontside or backside?

J: I call it a bridge slide. Like, you become a bridge between the two ledges. But I’ve heard it called a nailslide before. I think of it like a rail in the middle when considering it frontside or backside.



4Ply: That’s a logical way to think about it. How about this: Until the recent WKND 2021 part, You didn’t have any tricks in slow motion. None.

J: That’s crazy. It’s funny that when I showed Grant a cut of the String Theory part and he told me that I should get some of those things in slow motion. I guess I just am not looking better when it’s slower.

The Fits

4Ply: Probably more important than tricks, we also tracked pants colors… as best we could. In some of the older videos the resolution is really low so all the pants just kinda look blackish.



How much thought goes into pants? How much thought do you put into an outfit when you go out to film?

J: Ummm. Not a whole lot. I mean I wanna feel kinda cool on my skateboard. I guess you have to feel kinda ok or cool in your clothes and then feel like you can have a good day skating, maybe. Like if you can’t move in your pants it’s like just gonna fuck with you the whole day skating. So, as far as that goes, yeah. I think about flexibility. I don’t want to be wearing like 5 different colored camos or something. I don’t know. Or maybe I do? Shit. Maybe I just haven’t gotten there yet. But for the most part with pants I’m just going with what feels good and comfortable.



4Ply: Is that the same pair of maroon pants we’re seeing over and over or do you have several pairs?

J: It’s that same pair of maroon pants that I’ve been stoked on for a while. Everyone thinks they are purple pants, but they are maroon. I got a clip in the new video in them and it was one of the earliest clips I got. But it’s just been the one pair.

4Ply: So have they been retired?

J: Yeah, they’ve been retired.

4Ply: What about the one clip in lavender pants?

J: Ha. Maybe that is what they are talking about when they talk about my purple pants. Those were just white pants the I dyed with some RIT dye one time.



4Ply: Another thing 4Ply tracked was the prevalence of striped shirts, which were mostly horizontal but we also included the vertical stripes. Even if it was under a hoodie, if we could spot it we counted it. For your entire career, you have worn striped shirts a solid 21.4% of the time.

J: I love the striped shirts. I’m into it. Ha, that’s awesome.

4Ply: It peaked out with your first WKND part at 39%, and has declined down to 28% in your most recent part. Comments?

J: I got to get my that striped shirt game up.

4Ply: What if you and Tom K shared a part and you were all in horizontal stripes and Tom K wore vertical stripes like Ernie and Bert?

J: I guess that could be funny.



4Ply: So that is a good segue into the recent outlying and more noticeable outfits of late. Having the sleeveless shirt, how much thought went into that? How much is it a put-on versus genuinely you wanted to show your arms for this clip?

J: I think it’s pretty genuine, honestly. Sometime I’ll give some extra thought as to what I’m wearing. Sometimes I review what I’ve got for the part already and think, "Yeah, I’ve got a bunch of clips in that shirt already. I better take that one out of the rotation.”
The wilder stuff is that maybe I was just a little insecure at first, and then I just got to a point where I’m like “Why am I insecure about this? I want to wear this.” It goes back to seeing people I grew up on wear stuff like that. Like Greco had hacked sleeves. Or like Reynolds would wear a tie when he skated. Like a blazer with a tie. I’m like, dude that looks so sick. But you think, “Who am I? I can’t pull that off.” But then at some point you’re just, like, “You know what, fuck it. I want to wear that. Who gives a shit?” I think it’s just maybe not giving a shit anymore. I just want to wear what I want to wear.

4Ply: I think you’re in a good place where even if people don’t like it, you haven’t established yourself as a ‘cool guy’. You seem like someone who’s having fun so you can get away with it. If you do show up with just a leather jacket and no shirt it could be interpreted as a character that is doing this trick, or something.

J: Ha. I can always fall back on that. It is just some other person I’m playing who is wearing that.

Other Outfit Observations

• Jordan in gloves (WKND 2021)
  
• Jordan in a silly hat (Brainwash)
  
• Jordan in a House of Hammers shirt (String Theory)
  
• Jordan with no shirt (Welcome to Ashbury)
  
• Jordan with no sleeves (WKND 2021)
  
• Jordan in shorts (WKND 2021)
  

4Ply: The Shorty’s shirt…

J: I’ve always wanted one of those Shorty’s shirts, so I got one and got a clip in it. I’m aware that I’m wearing it, but it isn’t a gimmick. Same thing with the studded belts. I just wanted to do this so I did.



4Ply: And now you’ve started your own clothing brand that seems to be centered around the studded belt. That’s the showpiece for Loosey. What made you decide to make belts?

J: I think that, yeah, it’s the same kind of thing. I always wanted a studded belt as a kid and never had one. I’m not sure what sparked it. One day I was like, you know what, I want a studded belt. Maybe I saw one somewhere and I was like, “It’s time”. That kinda thing. And then it turns out it was hard to find the right fitting one. Like they all had 3 rows of studs and that almost doesn’t fit the pants I wear properly. So I had to find a 2 row one, and that was kind of hard. And then, I was like “I’m just gonna try and make one how I want it.” And that’s how that happened pretty much. 

4Ply: Did you try to hand make one first? Like with a Bedazzler?

J: Well. I bought a studded belt off Amazon that I really liked. This was the best one. How do I make this? How do I rip this one off? But then it’s kind of hard finding the right material. I got, like, 5 samples before I got it how I wanted.

4Ply: And then did you do market research? I feel like if you’re starting a t-shirt brand you can do whatever. You don’t have to look at the space to see who your competing with. But with belts, are you looking at other companies and competitors, or is it not nearly as sophisticated as all that?

J: I would say not nearly as sophisticated as that. But, if I see a company I like I’ll look at them differently now, you know. I’ll look a little further into it, rather than just say “that’s cool”. I’ll be like “Huh? Why is that cool?” A little more thought, I guess.

4Ply: Are you just in that mindset now that you’re making belts that’s all you see is people’s belts.

J: Haha. Naw. Not really. Maybe I should though.

4Ply: Is the company named after your dog, Lucy?

J: I mean, it’s spelled differently, but yeah, there is a connection there. ‘Anything’ was another name I had, but my wife said that was stupid. Sometimes it is the brand that makes the name cool, not the other way around.

4Ply: Is your basement actually Loosey headquarters? How much truth was in that one video?

J: That is 100% true. That’s the Loosey Headquarters, dude. The basement. Anything goes down there.

4Ply: Does it still have that writing on the wall?

J: Oh yeah. That’s still up there. That’s permanent marker. I’m not sure if I’m gonna paint over it or just let it hang out there for a while.

4Ply: Speaking of your dog, do you take her skating with you? That’s happening a lot these days, having a dog at the session.

J: Naw, I tried that but she can just be too aggressive. Grant has a new dog named Bondo, so maybe he’ll be the dog in the session guy.